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Sunday, June 30, 2013

The Yachats Gazette, Issue 23, June 30 2013

INTERVIEW WITH JULIE DAVIES OF THE YACHATIAN STATION

The Yachats Gazette caught up with Julie at 665 Hwy 101, where she runs an indoor consignment market.

The Yachatian Station Store Sign


TYG: What exactly is the point of this store?
Julie: Well Allen, the Yachatian Station is [a] multivendor store and I guess it probably has 15 vendors in here right now.

TYG: Wow, holy cow!
Julie: Yeah!

TYG: They can’t each have their own booths…
Julie: And they don’t.

TYG: There is nowhere near enough space in here.
Julie: But I have plenty of space, we have two new, wonderful vendors coming in. The idea is to have everything from a teaspoon, to an artful decoration, for maybe a higher price. So we want to offer a myriad of things.

TYG: So basically anything and everything from Yachats. Because you have such a variety of stuff here.
Julie: Right, that’s the idea. And the vendors are wonderful, some of them are artisans, some of them are just “unique findings”, that you find at other places, but I try to remember that we all have a budget.

TYG: Yeah.
Julie: And so at the end of the day if it was just two dollars, that made your day, or $500…

TYG: You want the $500!
Julie: I would like the $500! But Allen, by walking to the store and walking out but having spent two dollars when I only had five, I feel good.

TYG: Yeah. Oh, so you’re not saying that will be all that’s bought.
Julie: Yeah right Allen, my goal is to have a store in which every budget can have something. [...]

TYG: Man, it’s amazing how much stuff is in here.
Julie: I know. Oh, and I recently got Green Bike, which I’m very excited about.

TYG: So what does that mean, “you’ve got Green  Bike”?
Julie: The gentleman Rick at the Green Bike shop in Waldport was nice enough to give me some free green bikes, one of which is a tandem, which you’re looking at right now. Of course that means riding at your own risk because until you ride it you don’t know what that means, I can tell you I do. [laughs heartily]

TYG: So you’re saying tandem bikes are difficult to ride.
Julie: Tandem bikes are heavy, but they’re a lot of fun and say for a couple visiting town, how much fun to see the ocean that way, right?

TYG: Right, and there are two people pushing.
Julie: Exactly.

TYG: Which, face it, is not a very good bike to have, and it’s so long that you virtually cannot put it on any kind of rack.
Julie: Yeah, well I’ll tell you, it’s great for two people. I rode it as one person but I walked up the hill, let’s put it that way. [Laughs heartily] Also Allen, I went down the hill like no one’s business, WHEEEEEEE, but up the hill was a whole different ballgame.

TYG: Which hill?
Julie: This little hill that goes down Seventh Street. Going back up was like... [heaves with effort] I had to get off and walk it. Well, overall, I’ve got Green Bike and lots of interesting people here in town. Unfortunately I did get one bike lost recently, the night before last. So I would implore anybody that took it, please return it, because it’s on donation only and…

TYG: I wonder what could have happened to it.
Julie: I just ask that whoever dropped it please return it.

TYG: I see.
Julie: I’ve got a lot of things from jewelry, to Green Bike. I hope to soon have a call for vendors…

TYG: That would be cool because you have so much space out there!
Julie: Uh-huh! And you know that!

TYG: I see it, I go back there relatively commonly and you have a huge amount of space there!
Julie: At some point I would even like to have Friday night charades out there.
TYG:Charades?

Julie: I had a deck built, and the potential use of that is that we can play charades all on Friday nights every week. Charades are where you have to act out a clue. [...] I’d also like to have the first adult Yachatian hide-and-seek league, where we wear different colored T-shirts.

TYG: I’d put it in The Skinny so that if anyone sees someone hiding in the bushes they won’t call 911. [Laughs]
Julie: [...] I also thought about having a Yachats kickball league.

TYG: Are you going to use the field?
Julie: Uh-huh!

TYG: I thought that would be where this game would be held, pretty fun! It would be great if we had two baseball leagues, because I mean we have a field big enough for baseball, I know we have the Smelts already [Yachats’s baseball league].
Julie: Oh yeah!

TYG: The Smelts aren’t much though!
Julie: Oh, you never know!

TYG: Although some of them really know how to play very very well! Some of them are really good! Mostly because some of them were obsessed with baseball all their life.
Julie: Oh yeah! It’s not me that’s why I’m doing hide-and-seek! [...]

TYG: Yeah. Fortunately they’re using different rules in the Smelts, so there are no outs and you can keep hitting until you hit the ball.
Julie: Now that sounds like my kind of baseball! Well I think with everything going on, this summer is going to be lots of fun. A lot of businesses, and townsfolk.

[The Yachats Gazette will carry the conclusion of the interview with Julie Davies of the Yachatian Station in next month’s issue.]

INTERVIEW WITH CICELY BERNARD OF THE YACHATS FARM STORE

TYG: So what kind of food do you have in the store?
Cicely: The food is, and is going to be, organic food. Even if it’s not certified organic, it will be raised as local as possible, so we’d like to get our produce from local farmers in the Yachats area, and the Waldport area, or south of here.... Local can also mean within Lincoln County—we have a farmer who’s in Toledo, and a farmer who’s in Siletz. And we’d like to have more farmers in the Yachats River valley and the Alsea River valley. We’re trying to keep our products coming from, if not from Lincoln County, then from the neighboring counties. So that’s quite a few options for getting food that may not be already here.

TYG: What kind of stuff will the greenhouse hold?
Cicely: The greenhouse will have pallets of bagged potting soil, bags of compost, and it’ll have shelves of plants.

TYG: What kind of plants?
Cicely: Mainly edibles. We’ll have all organically grown plants.

TYG: Will you have seeds?
Cicely: Yes. We have seeds now. We have herbs, and vegetables, and flowers… like sunflowers, and zinnias, and snapdragons, and nasturtiums. And some grain over there, and also root vegetables… In the greenhouse, when we have plants for sale, there’ll be little potted plants, either four-inch or six-pack, or maybe gallon-size, and there’ll be a lot of stuff in there that people would want to plant on their property, so they could grow food. Like, if somebody wanted to grow raspberries, and put in a row of raspberries, then we’d have gallon pots of raspberries. Or if they wanted to start a strawberry bed, we would have little four-inch pots of strawberries.  We’ll have some native plants, so in case people want to encourage wildlife habitat in the area around their homes and they want to naturescape, which is a way of landscaping using native plants, they could find some plants here.

TYG: Will you be selling, like, roses, or hydrangea?
Cicely: You know, there are roses for sale already in Yachats—that’s what Blythe and Don do. But I would probably use the space for something that isn’t already here, like…

TYG: But what about hydrangea?
Cicely: It’s an excellent choice for a coastal plant. And hydrangea might be something that I do—because, you notice, I planted one out there in front of the door and I love them, so I might get hydrangeas.[…] One plant that was brought to my attention is a little violet that’s a food source for the larva of the [endangered] silver spot butterfly.

TYG: Ohhh!
Cicely: So I’m going to try to have native plants like that, that would help re-establish habitat. Ideally I would have a whole flat, or two flats, of this little violet, and they would have flowers on them. And if there weren’t already butterflies in the greenhouse, coming to the flowers, I would put a picture of the butterfly right by the flowers, so people would know that if you plant this flower, you would be providing [habitat].

TYG: I would love to be a volunteer.
Cicely: Would you?

TYG: Yeah. I have a little garden patch. It has low light, though—can these plants survive in low light?
Cicely: Is it in full shade all day long, or does it get some sunlight?

TYG: It gets occasional sun—unfortunately there’s a huge butterfly bush right in front of it, where the sun would come in.
Cicely: Can I tell you about those? The butterfly bush is a really beautiful bush, that attracts butterflies, but it’s actually classified as an invasive weed, because it spreads and gets really out of control. And they get huge—so as beautiful as they are, it’s a good thing to keep pruned really far back, down to a smaller shrub. [long discussion regarding berries edited]

TYG: A question for the community: Will the out-back region be used for emergency food?
Cicely: Well, there will cellars in the back, built into the hillside, up against the basalt rock… so one idea that we had for the cellars, besides where our beer is stored, is having some emergency food in there….

TYG: Yeah, that would be a great idea.
Cicely:… Preserved food…

TYG: Yeah. Frozen food.
Cicely: Well, it would probably be more like fermented or dried… maybe frozen, we’ll see.

TYG: I think frozen would be better, because you can thaw it out, and it kind of preserves the taste, and that would allow greens to be stored.
Cicely: Have you ever eaten dehydrated greens?

TYG: I bet it doesn’t taste nearly as good.
Cicely: I think I have to make you some kale chips.

TYG: Oh, I’ve already had kale chips.
Cicely: That’s dehydrated greens! They’re dry and crispy. But anyway, we’ll see.

TYG: I heard you were going to expand this entranceway. What will the new storefront look like?
Cicely: That’s a great question for Nathan, because he’s the designer. I know that it will be a different door, that it may very well be those doors you saw leaning against the front of the building.

TYG: I didn’t see them.
Cicely: Well, we got some doors out of an old restaurant in Portland. We like to re-use materials that have been used in other buildings. […]

TYG: How long did it take you to complete all this woodwork? I mean, where did you get the idea for all of this woodwork?
Cicely: Nathan is a woodworker, he’s a carpenter—and he’s passionate about this kind of thing. He even milled some of the wood from trees on our property. He came up with some of the beautiful faces of the drawers out of alder. And a lot of [the flooring]  is reclaimed. Did you notice that these barstools are made out of old recycled wine barrels? See the wine barrels up there? These are being taken apart and made into barstools.

INTERVIEW WITH NATHAN BERNARD OF THE YACHATS FARM STORE

Nathan: So right now, we’re in the main retail space for the Yachats Farm Store. Where you’re standing will very shortly be where the tasting bar for Yachats Brewing will be—it will be kind of an L-shaped bar that lives right here. There will be taps where beer is served. Over this way is more retail space for the farm store: we’ve got our produce and meat area as well as a book and gardening area here. We’ve got food preservation and cured meats and eggs as well as cheese-making supplies. This is the old vault from the bank that used to be here. This building was built for a bank, so this is the area that used to be the vault. There used to be a very expensive shiny door right here that locked this up tight.

TYG Editorial-Assistant: What happened to that?
Nathan: When the bank moved to where it is now they took their door with them, because it was a $70,000 door, is the story I was told. [Exclamations] So that’s where that door is today, over in the other bank. I will show you where the commercial kitchen is. This kitchen is where we will be doing a lot of food processing and preparing of foods to put out into the retail space for sale, in the deli case and out on the floor, and in the other coolers.

TYG: This tour will include the outside too, right?
Nathan:  Yes, we’ll get there. So this is the kitchen, as you can see, so like I said this will be the area where we’re mostly processing and cooking food. The counter that you were eating at will be seating if you would like to have some food in the store or have a beer. Out of this door will be the greenhouse and garden area. So we’ll step through this door and out into the greenhouse area. This area here will all be enclosed under a greenhouse roof, a clear roof. This will be full of plants and garden supplies and tools and fertilizers. As we walk back this way, this area will still be greenhouse, and then a wall right here with a door. As you pass through that door, you will now be in the brewery. So this is where the main brewery will be. The big tanks will sit right where I’m standing. Another set of big tanks will be all along that wall.

TYG: I see.
Nathan: As we walk through here, this is the cooler. When beer is finished and is ready to be served it will go into this room.

TYG: And it will go into these taps!
Nathan: Exactly! It will go through these holes into those taps and there will be kegs and tanks and hoses—things like that in here. And then out here, this area where all this rebar is, is going to be the cellars. So there will be a doorway kind of right in front of us. That room back there will be a barrel room. There will be barrels with beer aging in them. This area right here will have a little bottling line so we will be able to bottle beer. That room over there will be for finished beer in bottles or kegs, that is ready to ship out. As we walk through the brewery we come closer to the back door of the kitchen. This will also be a kind of shared space where the food  processing happens. There will be big tables and sinks here. Right about here there will be another wall, and when you come through a big overhead door there will be an elevator door right here so you will be able to go into an elevator.

TYG: [In a very excited voice] You’re using elevators?
Nathan: An elevator will go up to the second and third floors.

TYG: Oh, there are three floors!
Nathan: Yep. So the second floor will be mostly dry storage on one end. We’ll have a room that is for the mill and the grain for the brewery. So we’ll store the grain and we’ll mill it up there, and it will gravity-feed down into the brewery below.

TYG: Coooool!
Nathan:  And then the very top floor, the third floor, will eventually be a tap room. It will be a place where you can go and sit and have beer and look at the view and have a nice area up there.

TYG: That’s nice! I wasn’t sure what the third floor was.
Nathan: Yep! It’ll be a taproom.

TYG:  Will that be allowed for kids?
Nathan:  Yes. This whole place will be for all ages. There may be some hours and certain events where we won’t do minors up on the top but most of the time it will be open to everyone.

TYG:  Great!
Nathan:  So as we come out of the brewery there and through this door, this will be the shipping and receiving area over here. So this will be where a lot of beer and food is coming and going.

TYG:  So this is actually a full-scale business, not just for the Farm Store basically but for the entire county and state!
Nathan: Yes, we’re hoping to have our food in a lot of different places eventually. There will be products that we make. For example, Cicely makes sauerkrauts and pickles and things like that. Those are things that we’re going to be packaging and selling at other places also, as well as having them for sale here.

TYG:  The third floor will be enclosed, right?
Nathan:  Yes, there will be a balcony so you’ll be able to step out onto the balcony and get a nice o open view of the ocean.

TYG:  When do you expect that to be finished?
Nathan:  The building will be done by the end of the summer but that space up there will probably not be used—the tap room—for probably three years or more. We’re building the whole building now because we had to do that for the engineering, but we don’t really anticipate needing that space for several years. So it will probably be three years before we do the rest of the finished work on the top level and turn that into a finished tap room.

TYG:  But the second floor will be done.
Nathan:  That we will be using, because that is where the grain is stored. So we will have a special room as humidity control, so it doesn’t get too wet in there, and that will be where the grain is stored and where the milling is done.

TYG:  Humidity control is essential around here!
Nathan:  Yep, it’s very humid around here. The grain likes it dry.

TYG:  Can you explain to me how exactly beer is made?
Nathan:  I can tell you in the simplest terms. The brewer that is going to be brewing for us can tell you in very detailed terms. Basically, the way that it works is that water is heated and poured over grain which is basically malted barley—that’s just the type of grain that is used—and it is let to sit a certain amount of time. The liquid that comes off that grain is called “wort,” and it goes into another container that is called a kettle. That container is heated and it boils the wort. After a little while you put hops, which is a plant—a vine that has very wonderful smelling flowers on it—you put the flowers of the hop plant into the kettle and boil that all together. After it’s boiled a certain amount of time, you cool it down to a certain temperature, and then you put a type of brewing yeast in, and then you let it sit for a couple of weeks at least. And then it’s beer.

TYG:  Interesting! So that time is to let the yeast grow, right?
Nathan:  Right! So that wort, that liquid that comes off of the grain, is very sweet and has lots of sugars in it. The yeast loves to eat sugar. When you pour the yeast in, the yeast will grow and consume the sugar and eat that wort into beer. Part of what happens to the yeast is that it creates alcohol in that beer.
We can go back through this door and into the kitchen area. We’ll just take a look at the last few little spots here. Here’s one bathroom and here’s another. […] So that’s the tour of Yachats Farm Store and Yachats Brewing.

TYG:  Thank you! When exactly was the construction started?
Nathan:  That’s a good question! I guess we started in January of 2012, I think, or maybe December of 2011. It’s been a year and a half since we started. I don’t know if you remember back when we started but we did a bunch of tree work, because there were trees hanging off this cliff and leaning over the back of the building there. So we had a lot of work to do just to get those trees done. We did remove some giant stumps and we excavated a lot of material from the back as you saw—about 350 yards of the back [of the property].

TYG: 350 cubic yards you mean, right?
Nathan: Yes, cubic yards of rock.

TYG:  Man, how did you ever find the time to do all of this woodwork?
Nathan:  Well, it’s the thing I love to do the most! The woodwork was something that I have really enjoyed, and enjoyed taking the time that I thought would make it turn out the best. I don’t think I could ever afford to pay someone else to build all this woodwork, but because it’s something that I am passionate about and love to do, we were able to really just cut loose on the carpentry.

TYG:  When do you think the beer situation is going to be done?
Nathan:  We’ll  be serving beer for the July 4 weekend, but it will be beer that was made at other breweries and not here on site. Around the end of July we’ll be able to start putting the equipment into the brewery, and by sometime shortly after that—August—we’ll be making beer here.

TYG:  And of course it will be another two weeks after the time when you start that you’ll actually be serving beer that’s been made here because of the fermentation process.
Nathan:  Exactly!  That’s exactly right. You remember well. [...]

TYG:  […] How did you ever find the money to do this?
Nathan:  We borrowed the money. We wrote a very thorough business plan and then we found people willing to loan us the money to build this project.

TYG:  I see. Why do you have the Bread and Roses business card here?
Nathan:  Oh, because Blythe [the owner/baker at Bread and Roses] is a friend of ours, and we love her bread, and people ask where they can go to get some fresh bread or some soup or something, and we like to be able to give them one of those and send them over.

TYG:  […] That greenhouse will be grand, won’t it?
Nathan: Yes, I’m excited to get it finished. I was happy to pour the concrete last week and now I’m ready to get the roof on it. […] Okay I need to go to the lumber yard to get some wood for some work I’m doing this afternoon. Thank you for talking to us!

TYG:  Thank you so much!

INTERVIEW AT CLEFT OF THE ROCK LIGHTHOUSE
WITH DEB AND RAY PEDRICK (PART 2)

Cleft of the Rock Lighthouse in Yachats, OR
(viewed from the west)

Cleft of the Rock lighthouse, just south of Yachats, was the home of lighthouse keeper and maritime author Jim Gibbs, who died at home on May 1, 2010, at the age of 88. It is a private residence, not open to the public, as well as a navigational landmark officially recognized by the US Coast Guard. The Yachats Gazette staff was privileged to have the opportunity to tour the site and to spend an afternoon talking with Deb and Ray Pedrick, Mr. Gibbs’ daughter and son-in-law, who continue to live on the property. This is the second part of the interview, and starts out on the first landing of the lighthouse tower.

Ray: Now it doesn’t look like much: the light up in the lens came from Solander Island, which pretty much looks like a Seal Rock. It’s just a rock along the northwest coast of Vancouver Island [BC, Canada]. […] The Canadian Service in the 1970’s decided it was too hard to run oil up to there, so basically it was an aerial beacon. It was made in the 1950’s, made in Crawley, England by Stone-Chance—Stone-Chance used to make Fresnel lenses 150 years prior. But then they started making aerial beacons.
TYG (Graphic Design): What is an aerial beacon?
Ray: It’s just a light that you’re looking for—in airports, that kind of thing.

TYG-GD: But is it electrically powered?
Ray: Yes it is. […]

TYG-GD: So how did he get that light, and get it Coast Guard-approved?
Ray: That’s the million dollar question! I have been trying to find out—I remember when he got that lens, because he asked me “Where’s a welder that I can make a stand with?” and I told him where he could find one. I know he went up to BC, but you know… Jim has his artifact friends, and he has the museum friends, and all this, and they all talk amongst each other, and somehow somebody found out that they had this decommissioned lens that the Canadians wanted to get rid of… So he probably made a bid on it and got it. […] Anyway, so I’ll go up first and open the windows so nobody gets claustrophobic up there.

Ok, this banister came out of the Yaquina Bay Lighthouse. They just had a room full of junk down there before they restored it. […] This [lighthouse] became operational in 1978—the house was built in 1976. Every year the Coast Guard comes, and they have to inspect it. Generally it’s really neat guys from the Coast Guard auxiliary that come here and do it, and it’s just kind of a fun time. But they usually come out and make sure it’s all up to snuff. We have a back-up lens in case the original one gives out—it’s this little tiny fellow right here—it just shines within a smaller area out there. If the light becomes un-operational for whatever reason—we have to do maintenance, or it just breaks down (which it never has)—we have to let the Coast Guard know immediately.

TYG-GD: What if the electricity goes out?
Ray: The light goes out. We used to have a back-up system up there, a big RV battery, and it would go on that automatically—it doesn’t draw a lot of electricity—but the battery boiled over once, so Jim got rid of it. […]

TYG (Editorial Assistant): So this is a barrel lens?
Ray: It’s a barrel lens. It has its own signature within a geographical area. Ours is red-white-red every 10 seconds. Now Jim and Cherie also constructed what was called the Skunk Bay Lighthouse up on the Kitsap peninsula in the Puget Sound, and Jim saved the iron lens-house off of Smith Island Light before it tumbled into the ocean. It’s kind of like the sandstone that’s down at Coos Bay, and it kept on sloughing off, and finally the lighthouse just fell in. So he was able to save the lens from the lantern house off of that. He built Skunk Bay Lighthouse out of Hansville, WA. Since Jim was editor of Marine Digest for years, which was a professional publication, he knew a lot of ship captains and stuff. He told one of the captains “I’ll shine the light for you when you come in tonight.” And so he did. Well, somebody complained, and the next day the Coast Guard was at the front door. All it was was this little one-room shack with a lens on top. I mean he had to bring his own water with him, he had an outhouse… and so the Coast Guard came and said “Are you the one that started the light?” and he said “Yes I am.” And he said “Well, you have a choice: you either put it out or you make it official.” And he said “Well, what do I do to make it official?”—so they told him, and it became official. So this is his second official lighthouse. This is one of two privately-owned lighthouses on the Oregon Coast. The other one’s down in Brookings, right above the harbor.

Ray Pedrick and Allen Taylor, Publisher, viewing the Fresnel lens
at Cleft of the Rock Lighthouse in Yachats, OR

[We climb up into the tower which has very, very little room for other than the light and its stand]

Ray: This has an automatic sensor which turns [the light] on at night. Now in all lighthouses you have the lens room; you have the rotunda, which is the actual tower; you have the gallery, which is the hand-rails around the edges where you stand and do maintenance.

TYG: Is there a way to get out there?
Ray: Yeah, through the window. You crawl out the window.

TYG-EA: We won’t do that.
Ray: No, we’re not! Now you can see where this thing is built to take the outdoors. It’s massive. It’s an acrylic lens. You can get in there, just pull that [gel] out, change the lenses to different colors—the whole lens piece actually lifts out. It’s a tight fit, but I have to bring it out about every 30 days. I clean everything down. I oil the gears in there and everything, which are just beautiful bearings. You can just turn them with your finger like that. So this shines out—on a good clear day, it’s about 8 miles, 12 miles max. So you can kind of get the bull’s-eye look. If you get right in the bull’s-eye, you get a good idea of how even the plastic prisms—acrylic, plastic, whatever you want to call it—they’re slightly damaged, but they do a good job.

TYG: What happened to them?
Ray: I think they just got a little bit wasted when they were up in Canada. I’ve tried to polish them out, but they just don’t polish out very well. But they do the job, for just a small 60-watt bulb in there it’s not bad.

TYG: How often do you have to change the bulb?
Ray: They burn out about once a year. […] We do have to refinish everything up here—it gets a little baked—all the heat in the house rises up here, and then this [light] puts out a lot of heat too. And like all lighthouses, there’s a lightning rod up there too.  […] [We all move back downstairs]
Ray: Again, just what we want to stress, is this is Jim and Cherie’s home, and this was Jim’s dream, and Deb and I are nothing more than stewards of this lighthouse. It’s a gift to us, and we never took it for granted. A lot of people ask what we are going to do with it.

TYG: Yes, that would be a good question!
Ray:  I’m going to be retiring this year, but we honestly don’t know what we are going to do. People say “Are you going to make it a bed and breakfast?” and the answer is “No.” “Are you going to make it a vacation rental?” “Probably not.” “Are you going to maintain it as an official light in honor of Jim and Cherie?” “Yes, we are.” And that’s about the best we can do for them—and of course enjoy it ourselves, and let our animals enjoy it [they own a snuffle of bulldogs]. It’s a beautiful place, and we know that we’re very fortunate—and like I said before, we do not take it for granted.

TYG: Where did Jim get the idea for this lighthouse?
Ray: Remember when I told you that when he was a little kid, he always looked [out his window at the ships coming into Seattle]? He’s always been in love with the sea, and with ships, and with ship lore, and sea stories and stuff like that. He fell in love with lighthouses when he was a little kid, and he always said “I want to build one.” And he also said he wanted to build one on the Oregon Coast. […]

Young Jim Gibbs


TYG: Why did he choose this location? I mean, it seems kind of desolate.
Ray: Yachats! [laughter] Actually, he was offered, in the 1960’s—those houses didn’t look like they do now; there were just a couple of shacks down there—I think he was offered the whole thing for $10,000. [Awed “wow”’s all around] But he and Cherie came down here close to when he retired and bought this property around 1970, 71. And then they moved to Hawaii.

TYG: He lived in Hawaii?
Ray: Yes, he did for a while. […] He got very sick in the late 60’s and had a type of cancer that most men didn’t survive.

TYG: But he did!
Ray: But he did. But he didn’t think he was going to live long, so he moved to Hawaii. [And then] he went and lived another 47 years!  He kind of surprised himself. So they moved back to the mainland because Cherie wanted to come back—I think Jim would have been happy in Hawaii. […]

TYG Editorial Asst.: We were talking about [before we started recording] how you came here, how long the two of you have been together…
Ray: Deb and I will have been married 40 years in May. We moved to this area in 1975 when I got out of the Air Force. I worked in the mills, and Deb worked several jobs. I was working in the mill fulltime and going to school halftime—I was going to be a history teacher. That never panned out. Then we owned a business up on the Alsea River for 12 years [Alsea Power Tools], and then I’ve been a UPS driver for the last 20 years, and I’ll be retiring at the end of this year. We owned a couple houses, and then around, I think, 1985, we sold that bed and breakfast place that we talked about—it wasn’t a bed and breakfast then. We wanted to live up Yachats River and have horses, but we couldn’t find stuff that we could afford, or we’d find a place that needed fixing up, but we couldn’t afford to fix it up. And we got to that 2 year mark when we had to reinvest that money [from the house sale] and we were living in that cabin down the driveway [near the entrance to the property]. Jim and Cherie came up to us and said “If you want to build on the center point [of their property where the lighthouse is now], you’ve got our blessing!” basically—and we did! It was a good choice.

TYG-EA: How did you two meet?
Ray: Actually we met in 1968. You know Jim was somewhat of a faith-full person—he was a lay Baptist preacher right up to the time he passed away and he was very involved with the Yachats Baptist Church—but Deb and I met in a church when my family moved up from Los Angeles to Seattle. I remember seeing this little blonde-headed girl standing back there, and she was cute!

TYG: So Deb’s father is Jim [Gibbs]?
Deb: Yep. I’m the only kid.

TYG: Do you guys have kids?
Ray: We have dogs and cats. Those are our kids.

TYG: It was awesome meeting you guys—thanks!
Deb: Sure was nice spending the afternoon with you!


Friday, May 31, 2013

Interview at Cleft of the Rock Lighthouse with Deb and Ray Pedrick

Cleft of the Rock lighthouse, just south of Yachats, was the home of lighthouse keeper and maritime author Jim Gibbs, who died at home on May 1, 2010, at the age of 88. It is a private residence, not open to the public, as well as a navigational landmark officially recognized by the US Coast Guard. The Yachats Gazette staff was privileged to have the opportunity to tour the site and to spend an afternoon talking with Deb and Ray Pedrick, Mr. Gibbs’ daughter and son-in-law, who continue to live on the property.

Ray: As you know, Jim was a writer. He has about 22 books to his credit. […] But Jim was also a collector. As a kid, he grew up above the Seattle waterfront, on Queen Anne Hill. They had a big house, but Jim always took the smallest room up in the attic because it had a little window that looked down on the ships. As a little kid, he started recording what ships came in, what ships left, who was the captain—stuff like that.
TYG: How did he know that?
Ray: Because back in those days, you could walk on down and talk to them. He got to know them, and then he read stuff on them. From the time he was a young kid to the time he died, even though his mind was getting … foggy, the one thing he always knew, whenever somebody was sitting here interviewing or questioning him: […] ship tonnage, where it was going, who was its captain, what its cargo was: he knew everything.

As a young person he started collecting stuff. In 1948, he and a group of five other guys started what was called the Puget Sound Maritime Historical Society. They saw that lighthouses and things like that were being destroyed—they were taking sledgehammers to lighthouse lenses, beautiful Fresnel lenses. They just considered them junk and wanted to replace them with aerial beacons. So they [the Society] started saving everything they could get: the rafts of ships after World War II which would just sit out in Elliott Bay, that they were going to scrap in Yokohama [after World War II, Yokohama, Japan, was a major transshipment base for American supplies and personnel]. They were basically going up [to] the night watchmen, [who were] very lonely, and so they would sit down, start telling war stories, liquoring each other up pretty good while everybody else was unbolting everything else on the ships, lowering it over the side—they were trying to save all the artifacts they could. So a lot of things you see around here, Jim has given—and Cherie; when I say Jim I also mean Cherie—they gave a lot of stuff. You’ll see their stuff at the [Columbia River] Maritime Museum in Astoria, the museum up in Seattle… you’ll see a lot of stuff. This [most of the maritime-themed furnishings in the house] is just a small fraction of what he has.
Deb: There are also a number of things in our house that I grew up with.
Ray: And for safekeeping—we do have two Fresnel lenses down there. They’re fourth-order, which means they’re 2.5 feet tall. One’s from the northernmost San Juan Island, and the other one is from the northernmost lighthouse on the Washington-Canadian border—Semiahmoo and Patos Island. So we have those two.

[We start touring the house, which is filled with maritime-related equipment, memorabilia, and photographs.]

Ray: Now Allen, back in the days before they had electricity, lighthouse lenses sometimes revolved. So how do you think they did it?
TYG: I’m not exactly sure, but I know the lights were focused candles, many many candles.
Ray: Actually, it was just one. That was the trick—and we’ll talk about that in a second. But—you know what a grandfather clock is? You know how you have weights in the grandfather clock?
TYG: Ah! That’s how they turned! And they were really big weights—I’ve seen that at Heceta Head.
Ray: Now I understand that you might be taking a trip down to Frisco soon?
TYG: Yep!
Ray: South of San Francisco, on Point Sur… This is from the original Point Sur Lighthouse. This was the crank they used to raise those weights. And sometimes, in some lighthouses, that might have to be done four times a night. A lighthouse keeper was on deck. His job lasted from when the sun went down till the sun came up, also hauling oil. You said there were many, many candles. The trick was, to take one little flame—usually it was whale oil back in those days—and that whale oil flame had to shine anywhere from eight to 18 miles out to sea, sometimes farther. So how did they do that? And that’s where the beauty of the Fresnel lens came in.
TYG: The many different mirrors focused [the light] on one point, and that one point is very, very strong.
Ray: Right! It comes out the bull’s-eye, and that’s what the prisms did, in a large lens of the first order, like at Heceta Head, that can fit 12 grown men inside, down to the 4th order lenses that are 2.5 feet tall. […]

TYG: I know there’s a story about this lighthouse in Alaska… [looking at a picture of the Scotch Cap Lighthouse on a craggy cliff]
Ray: It’s on the Aleutian Islands. You can see the little beach down there below. […] The 1946 tsunami took this [lighthouse] out. It’s reinforced concrete—[the tsunami] totally wiped it out, killed all the keepers, went over the top of the hill, and took out the LORAN [Long Range Navigation] station on the other side. […]

Ray: [Moving on to a different photo] This is Tillamook Rock—it’s a mile out […] between Cannon Beach and Seaside, right off Tillamook Head. Jim would always try to tell people what it was like to be stationed there. Actually seventy pound rocks would come down through the roof, flood the lamp out… You can see it out there today. It’s a bird rookery and it’s falling apart. […] For years Jim would give what he called “Sea Talks” at [the Hatfield] Marine Science Center. Boy, he would just pack that place—people would come from all over just to hear him. And he was always trying to describe what it was like and never really could. […]

[Another photo of Tillamook Rock Lighthouse engulfed in waves and spray] Ok Allen, here’s the most notorious lighthouse on the west coast, and you can see why. They would rotate one keeper out for one month—you would go ashore for 30 days and they’d keep three other keepers on there. Now, how does he get from the rock to the boat?
TYG: Helicopter! 
Ray: Well, they didn’t have helicopters back in those days. So you see this [piece of equipment on shore]? It’s called a derrick boom. And then you put on what’s called a breeches buoy that looks like a lifebuoy ring with feet in it, and then you’d get yourself attached to [the boom] with a hook. The derrick operator lifts you up, moves you over, and as the deck of the ship is coming up, he’s got to try to gently lower you down and let you go. When Jim first went to the lighthouse—the same thing happened to him that happened to everybody else—he was the only young Coast Guardsman there. The others were part of the original lighthouse service. So when they had a new initiate, they would—unfortunately and mistakenly—not lift the boom up in time, so when the next surf came in they would drag you through 12 feet of green water and then pull you up soaking wet, so you were baptized. They did that dirty trick to everybody that came along. […] Jim thought he was going to go crazy when he first got out there […]. He actually tried to escape from there, and made a raft out of the original outhouse. He lowered it into the water, and the waves took it away immediately… […] But then he learned to make peace with it; he learned to love it; he learned to really appreciate the keepers.

[Another photo]
Ray: Every year, up in Seattle, they have what’s called the Seafair. To start the festivities in the old days—the EPA wouldn’t like it today—they would always burn a ship on Lake Washington around where the hydroplane races are held. They burned the old Bellingham, which is this ship in better times—and this is it [another photo] when they were getting ready to burn it down. […] Jim almost lost his life in that. Jim was a very lucky man because sometimes I wonder how he survived some of the things…

TYG: What happened? […]
Ray: Jim went down to one end of the hold—they got down in the hold, in the bilge area—and he lit off one end, and some other guy lit off the other end, and when the guy ran up the ladder, he kicked the ladder loose and then slammed the hatch shut. Poor Jim’s in the darkness there until the flames got enough to light the way. He found the ladder, but he lost his eyebrows! […]

[Moving on] This was primarily Jim’s bed. This is an original officer’s bunk out of the battleship Oregon. […]

TYG: Wow! Is this an original telephone?
Ray: That’s off the battle cruiser Helena, during World War II—here’s a picture of the cruiser—and this was just the battle station…
TYG: Battle station telephone! I’ve used one of these phone styles!
Ray: You worry me then.
TYG: I’m not kidding! Blythe used to have one of these! Yep, Blythe had an old rotary telephone!

[General adult hilarity. We move upstairs.]

Ray: [showing a photograph of the Fiddle Reef Light] Ok, do you notice the resemblance between that lighthouse, and the one here [that we’re in]? Four slab sides, a slight angle? What happened is, the Canadian Lighthouse Service made plans. They could either add more material, make them taller and wider; or smaller and more squat—they were basic plans. So when they thought they needed a lighthouse someplace, and it was in a remote area, you went to your local mill and had them mill the wood for it, and they erected it. The Canadian Lighthouse Service at that time pretty much put a local person in charge—they did not have a professional service crew quite so much as we did. And so you’ll find this same design […] from the Gaspé Bay Peninsula on the east coast down the St. Lawrence River to the west coast: you’ll see the same, basic design. Now this lighthouse [Cleft of the Rock] was made out of original plans for what was called the Fiddle Reef Light, which was in Oak Bay, British Columbia. […] Jim has the plans—they’re down there under the bed—but this is an exact replica.

TYG (Graphic Design): So he built it himself?
Ray: Actually Eddie Hoen and Steve Hamilton, which were two builders back then, they built this house and they built our house. No, Jim was not a carpenter. […]

[We move back downstairs in preparation for climbing the lighthouse tower, which is accessed from the ground floor.]

Please look for the second part of our interview with Deb and Ray Pedrick in next month’s issue.

Interview with Valerie Odenthal at Antique Virgin

Valerie: So we’ve already had one jewelry-making class here, and it was a success. The students [each] made a bracelet set with lampwork beads and other beads and gems. We want to do a class once a month, so I have put an ad in the Pacific Skinny looking for teachers that can come over here and possibly teach different classes. The next class we’d really like to teach is a wire wrapping class. And then we’d like to teach a beading class.…

TYG: Yeah, maybe that can be my Mom’s class. She came up with a new design for a bracelet….
Valerie: Well, I hope she considers doing it. … I want to get local teachers here. First of all, they’d be paid, and it would be a great community effort, and it might bring new people into beading and jewelry-making. It can be very therapeutic, and it’s a win-win, because they end up with a great creation afterwards.

TYG: Weird—I always thought the expression was “a win-win-win.”
Valerie: [laugh] Okay, third win—you get to meet new people in classes. […] Or you can take a class with friends. You can learn some new jewelry techniques… we’re going to have a class that will teach the basics, like how to use a crimp bead…

TYG: What is a crimp bead?
Valerie: The crimp bead is what holds [the end of the threading material] to the clasp.

TYG: How did the first class go?
Valerie: It went really well. Our teacher was actually a lampwork artist, and she makes a lot of her own jewelry—the students really loved her and loved the class. Also, the classes are going to be affordably priced—depending on the class, between $25 and $40 per student.

TYG: Does that include materials?
Valerie: It does not include materials, but the materials are usually a lot cheaper than that—usually no more than $15 to $20, depending. Usually the people who will take these classes are beaders themselves, so they usually have quite a supply of [materials].

TYG: Let’s talk about the store. Where did you get the idea for this store?
Valerie: Well actually, it wasn’t my idea. It was Kay York who started the store, seven years ago. But I like to think that we’ve taken it to another level, because we now have a website, and you can order a lot of the product on the website. We’ve brought in new product … like the sustainable purses. The Haiku line is made from recycled plastic bottles. If you look at the tag, it’ll tell you how many bottles were saved from landfill.

TYG: They’re beautiful!
Valerie: And they’re very popular, because they have a lot of room, and they’re great for travel.

TYG: I’m probably going to outgrow my old backpack soon, and I’ll probably want something like this for my next one.
Valerie: Also, we work only with fair-trade companies.

TYG: Which means—?
Valerie: Which means that the companies make sure that the people are paid a fair wage for the product they’re making.

A Conversation with Dean Shrock, Ph.D.

TYG: What is it exactly that you do?
Dean: Well, I trained as a psychologist. I went to school for a long time, and earned a Bachelor’s Degree in Psychology, and a Master’s Degree in Community and College Counseling, and then a Ph.D. in Counseling Psychology. So that’s my formal training. And then my internships…. I wrote a research proposal for the Cleveland Clinic, to test guided imagery. It’s like self-hypnosis—do you know what that is?

TYG: We read a couple of your articles on line. [www.deanshrock.com]
Dean: It’s the idea that you can use your mind, and your imagination and your beliefs, to actually affect the structure and function of the body.

TYG: I see.
Dean: I initially was going to work with the Cleveland Clinic, testing this with breast cancer patients, and I did that for a year, and then I [did] another internship [working] with a rehabilitation hospital. And there I was a staff psychologist, working with people primarily recovering from strokes, and I helped them with the psychological part of what is it like to have to adjust to a major change in your health status, not only for the person who has the stroke, but for the family. And we also found that I could teach the people who had the stroke how to use their imagination. ... For example, when you’re in the hospital for a stroke, you’re going to have to go through physical therapy, where essentially you learn to retrain the muscles to function properly again—well, when you imagine that you’re able to do it, along with the actual physical practice and training, it actually goes better, faster.

TYG: Cool! And that’s actually been shown in studies?
Dean: Very much so. And I showed them there in the hospital that they could do that. They hadn’t done that before. And while I was there, I had the opportunity to do additional training. It was so unusual for me, because I went to school for a long time, and I joked that I was penniless—I put myself through school. So it was funny that here I get this job and an internship, and they actually gave me money for what they called continuing education. I thought that was pretty hysterical. [laughter] So I took their money, and I trained with an oncologist, a radiation oncologist, who pioneered what we call psychosocial oncology—how psychological factors affect the course of disease, specifically with cancer.

TYG: I see.
Dean: We immediately had this great rapport, and decided we would continue to work together, and continue his research, which he had published in a major medical journal, [showing] that it could actually affect survival with cancer. I went back to where I was based, in State College, Pennsylvania, where Penn State University is, and the hospital where I was working was very interested in my developing a protocol for cancer patients there. … They sat on the project and didn’t follow through with it, but in the meantime I had contacted oncologists in the area about developing a program … with their patients, and they were very interested. Well, when my hospital sat on the project, I went back to them, and asked if they were still interested, and actually they were looking for someone like me to develop psychological services for their cancer centers.

TYG: Perfect!
Dean: Yeah, it was! So… I left the rehab hospital, and went to work directly with… a physician management group, and I didn’t realize that they were actually connected with what grew to be 40 cancer centers. So then I had a pretty big job, traveling and dealing with literally thousands of cancer patients and their families over the years.

TYG: So you’re glad you took that job!
Dean: Very much so. It was a blessing that I had met Dr. [Carl] Simonton, and fortunately I was single and very, very interested in the work, so I was free to spend as much time as I had to, traveling around and developing the services.

TYG: I see.
Dean: So then, in that process, I met somebody at Penn State University who was very interested in what I was doing—his name is Dr. Raymond Palmer, and he was in their biobehavioral health department. And he was a statistician. It’s kind of a joke within the field that you have to be pretty unique to really like statistics. And he loved statistics, and he said there was a way we could test the effectiveness of what I was doing. So there was another blessing. We worked together, and in fact we showed that the program I was teaching actually improved survival with cancer patients, beyond those who just got conventional medical treatment.

TYG: By how much?
Dean: By a lot. … I actually worked with all stages of cancer, even the most advanced, but when it comes to doing research, you have to have enough numbers to analyze properly, so in order to analyze this and have it be a good study, [we had] only enough stage 1 breast and prostate cancer to analyze, to include in the study. But we found, for example, that when we looked at people who had gone through my program, which was very similar to Dr. Simonton’s, for four to seven years—because generally speaking, we say that if you’re out five years post your diagnosis with cancer, you’re in pretty good shape, but the oncologists who I was working with said that if they’re out four years, you can actually begin to include them in your study…. So anyhow, from four to seven years, the women with breast cancer—none of them died, in that time period…

TYG: Wow!
Dean: … But the control group, who were very close-matched controls—other women who had stage 1 breast cancer of the exact same type and stage of disease, and a lot of other demographics that were extremely similar—12% of the control group died in the same time period. And then with stage 1 prostate [cancer], 14% of the men I worked with in that four to seven year time period had died, but 28% of the control group died. So twice as many died, who didn’t have the advantage of this.

TYG: That’s pretty big numbers.
Dean: They are. It was a very significant difference. So I was encouraged to write up the research, and [the person who was] probably the leader of what we call mind-body medicine, the editor of the leading journal in the field at the time, he actually asked if he could publish my study, which was very flattering. … So then I was encouraged to write a book as well, because I can only teach so many people at a time, and how do you get this information out. And so I titled it Doctor’s Orders: Go Fishing.

TYG: Yeah, I read about that on line.
Dean: … I found that if I talked to people who didn’t have any particular knowledge or background like I did in how the mind could be so powerful, and if I just cited a lot of research, it was pretty boring. But if I could tell them stories, and use terms like “go fishing,” they seemed to get it. I learned that pretty quickly. So where I lived, just outside State College, I honestly lived in a little town that was actually called Fisherman’s Paradise.

TYG: [laughs] That was really what it was called?!
Dean: Honest to goodness. And my backyard, my deck, overlooked the longest, most popular trout stream in all of Pennsylvania. And there were fly fishermen out there every day fishing. Now, I don’t know if you’ve ever really thought about a very serene image—I mean, here at the ocean you can probably think of a lot of things, but back there, the idea of a fisherman out there in the stream, fishing, is totally absorbed in what he or she is doing. And that’s what I wanted people to do, is to be so involved in doing what brought them great joy and meaning—we can call it more formally a will to live, and a passion…

TYG: I read about that.
Dean: Yeah. So I thought about going fishing. And they really got it. In fact, years after, I would run into people, … and they would come up to me and say, “I’ve been going fishing.” So it may sound odd, for a doctor to talk about … prescribing going fishing, but it was … my message that I knew they understood, that made the point very well. So that’s why I decided to keep that the title of my book, even though it might sound strange initially. It’s about encouraging people to do what really brings them the greatest joy and meaning in their life. And how that literally translates into the body functioning in a more healthy way.

… There’s a field of study called psychoneuroimmunology. The importance of that great big word is that back in the seventies, they discovered that the immune system doesn’t function independently. … Back when a lot of doctors I was working with were going through medical school, they always believed that the immune system functioned independently, and could not be affected by any other system, and certainly not [by] the central nervous system, which means your brain. So if your brain is not connected to the immune system, the system that fights disease, then how could your thoughts or beliefs or attitudes or emotions affect the course of disease? It couldn’t happen, right?

TYG: Yeah.
Dean: But back in the late seventies they discovered that in fact the immune system could be conditioned, which means through a form of learning. Well, in order for learning to take place, you have to have a brain. So in order for the brain to affect the immune system, or learning, then clearly the immune system could be self-regulated. … The key is here that your lifestyle, and how you feel, actually can improve or actually cause your immune system to work less well.

TYG: I see.
Dean: So that was the big thrust of my work—getting people to do more of what they love to do. But what was really interesting, is that I found that people thought that was too selfish. That was a real eye-opener. I thought, I’m giving people a license to steal, to do more of what they really want to do, as one of their doctors—you know, here we are telling people who have cancer “this is part of what we want you to do for your treatment, to get better”—but they honestly thought it was too selfish, that everybody and everything else should come first.

… And so when they ended up living longer, and the editors of the journal where I post my research wanted a comment, so why, I couldn’t comfortably say that it was because it was the will to live—because, remember, they thought it was too selfish, and they didn’t do it. And that’s when I learned that it’s because people said they felt listened to, and cared for, and supported. And that’s when I went on to write my book Why Love Heals. It may sound kind of logical to you that if you feel safe and loved, or listened to and cared for, that would be healthy—?

TYG: Yeah.
Dean: But trust me, when you do the research with this, it hasn’t been done—we don’t even look at factors like that, we just think it can’t be true, or how do you even measure love, and how does that affect the body. So that’s when I went on to really look and find the evidence that might help me understand, and then help others understand, how feeling loved and cared for would actually affect your being healthier.

… My real interest is in teaching. I taught that program for a long time, and I loved it. But when I took time out to write my books, it took a lot of time, and honestly, it took even more time to market them. So I got away from what I really loved to do. And then I got to thinking for myself about doing what you love, and I just realized how much I love to teach, but also how much I missed doing therapy—working with people who have problems. And it doesn’t mean, like, you know, they’re crazy, or—but are there ways that I could teach them to be happier and healthier.

TYG: Yeah.
Dean: Okay. Well, I’m pretty good at it. And I miss it. So now that I’m living here, I want to be able to do that again. And so that’s why I wanted to advertise in your Gazette, and I was very pleased that you were interested in talking with me, because I would like to be able to get back to what is really my passion, and help people—through teaching classes….

TYG: How did you get to Yachats?
Dean: When I wrote my second book [Why Love Heals], it took a lot, not to write it so much as market it… and it became a bestseller on Amazon, in three different categories, which is a big deal, we worked hard to pull that off… we decided we should celebrate in some way. And we thought, let’s even maybe go to Hawaii, do something big. But we always found a reason why we couldn’t get away. So finally one weekend we were free; I said to Shelly, “Let’s just go to the coast.” At that time we were living in the Medford, Oregon, area. And she said okay. So I got on line, and I looked up the Oregon coast, and where we might go. And we found “YATCH-ets.”

TYG: [laughing] It’s pronounced “YAH-hots!”
Dean: Well, I didn’t know! I got on the phone and I pronounced it “YATCH-ets,” and I was quickly corrected. So anyhow, that’s how we first came to Yachats.

… We stayed up at the Fireside… and we had time to kill … so for fun we went in the real estate office here, and we explained very clearly: “We are not interested in buying anything. We’re just curious.”  …  He knew what he was doing… he showed up this piece of land, and we bought it! So that weekend, the first time we’d ever been here, we walked away, went home, and decided to buy that land. So four years ago that happened … and it seemed like we were coming back every month thereafter.... So we decided to take the money from selling our house in Medford, and we decided to build our house here. So last year we built our house, and we moved in in December.